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RIDERS LOUNGE => riding => Wharncliffe => : Dark Lord Chuckles 30 Oct 05, 23:11

: Motorbikes in the Woods
: Dark Lord Chuckles 30 Oct 05, 23:11
This issue was raised with the FC yesterday at Sherwood

Chris made it absolutly clear that motorbikes are not permitted in the woods.

The best way to stop this is to report it when it happens to both the FC and the Police

If enough incidents are reported the police will have to take action

So if we want to keep Motorbikes out of the woods then it is up to all the users to take action

Go on, be a good citizen.

FC  e-mail - enquiries@forestry.gsi.gov.uk
Phone line - 0845 FORESTS (0845 3673787). This phone line is open 8.30am to 5.00pm, Monday to Friday. If you want, you can leave a message outside these hours and we will endeavour to respond on the next working day.


Local Policing Team - Deepcar Sector
 0114 296 4680
 
Local Policing Team - Hillsborough
 0114 296 4912

 
or you could just phone crimestoppers 0800 555 111

Do not phone 999 for this type of incident
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: Phil 30 Oct 05, 23:21
Good call - I was going to post this too but you beat me to it!

As well as them being totally illegal, riding in the woods is knackering all our hard work on the tracks.  2 minutes fun with a 2-stroke takes several hours to repair with a shovel!

Not only that, but if someone is injured in any way in the woods - be it a bike, motorbike or horse rider, dog walker or rambler - there is always chance that there could be a claim against the FC.  Chris pointed out that a claim against the FC comes out of operating income and therefore effectively limits the activity of the FC during that fiscal year.

Safe woods = no injuries = no claims = more money to provide better services

This is the jist behind the initial phase of the DH tracks - to ensure safety to both riders and other forest users.  For that, we need some funding - which we won't get if the FC are in court - so let's stop the illegal riders!
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: Dark Lord Chuckles 31 Oct 05, 08:52
Good call - I was going to post this too but you beat me to it!

Sorry  :-\


I was typing up the minutes and remembered it being mentioned, but wasn't sure who'd aggreed to do it, so thought I'd whack it up quick, better owt than nowt,  ;D feel free to make sticky or lock, or use your admin powers in whaever way you see fit to make it in to a propper anouncment type thing  8)

I wasn't sure which police staion was closest or deals with the area so I put both Deepcar and Hillsborourgh down, and I couln't find one local number for reporting none emergancy crime.
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: simonm 31 Oct 05, 12:10
Is there a preference which number to call  ? If we log most compaints to one single location will it prompt quicker action ? Ive programmed the Hillsborough one into my mobile, wont hesitate to call next time I see the motor bikes.

There are a lot of mini motos up there at moment, often kids at the bombhole near the top carpark usually. Ive also seen a line of 10-12 of them come over the heath into the woods and down part of the black route.
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: unstableJ 31 Oct 05, 18:46
0114 2 20 20 20    >:(

that's the general non emergency number for Sheffield Police.
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: Dark Lord Chuckles 31 Oct 05, 19:59
Nice one J, but why the angry face ???
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: unstableJ 31 Oct 05, 20:41
Still annoyed over their lack of interest in the muppet of a woman who caused the crash that did my arm in!!
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: terratag 31 Oct 05, 21:31
 Cheers for the phone No i'll stick it in my phone.
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: Dark Lord Chuckles 31 Oct 05, 21:32
Fair do's

 >:( >:( >:(

I'll add some of my own as well
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: terratag 11 Dec 05, 19:00
 Were some bikes in woods today but do i want to be one for them people.I know we were told by Chris to do this but fells abit petty.

Can i e-mail someone about this? eg crimestoppers
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: desman 11 Dec 05, 20:19
I was up there today, rode in from Stocksbridge and the tracks through the woods there were completely churned up. Not only that but the guys were on trials bikes and were climbing some of the downhill runs making them as churned, almost to the point of not actually being able to cycle down them.
I must agree with you terratag, it does seem a little petty reporting these guys, but the place was nearly impassable - I expect a bit of mud in the winter, but it was like a ploughed field on some of the sections.
Wouldn't be too bad, but I was in a mard anyway cos my stead decided to break its rear hanger and shed the rear derailler leaving me with what was simply a single speed for most of the day (after the joys of having to shorten a well mud caked chain) :(
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: SV500 11 Mar 06, 02:32
hi all,
last time i was nearly knocked off by some prat on a kids motorbike thing i rang the police,
(2202020) fat good that did,
the woman on the end of the line didn't even know where grenoside was  ;)
it was obviouse i was bothering her by actualy reporting something like motor bikes in the forrest,
i asked her what the chance was they'd get a car to make an apearance,but she'd already answered with her total lack of interest  >:(
still,as long as they'r riding motorbikes round ecclesfield park they'l not be riding through the forrest eh  ::)
by the way, love the forum  ;D

JJ..
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: simonm 28 Mar 06, 22:53
On sunday these guys were gap jumping plank gate, close to my m8 infront !

(http://www.verte.eclipse.co.uk/bikest.jpg)
These were trails bikes though and not MX.
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: SV500 17 Apr 06, 22:29
some complete silly person of a chav ran me off the track on friday dinnertime,
near to the entrance of the woods (next to mid and steven ln)
i saw him coming,complete with even smaller little kid clinging for dear life on the front  :(
he looked up . . accelerated . . took my line (to avoid some mud) leaving me with nowhere to go but the undergrowth  ::)
i did shout at him but he just accelerated toward a woman with a small dog,
it was one of those days where everyone said hello to you,it felt great to have been out in the forrest,and then the chav  >:(
still...next time he's getting a nice peice of brass rod through his front wheel,and then round his neck  :o ::)

JJ.. ;D
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: chris. 17 Apr 06, 22:38
Was full of them today...

The only good thing is they kept off the tracks for once but we should still be given powers to shoot them all or summat.

Can't see how they could be kept out at all, especially mini bikes and most of the time people aren't going to report them to the police which seems to be the only option.
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: simonm 18 Apr 06, 11:06
WRC Should write a letter to local police to start raising awareness. I'll start one then tweak it with you all.
Would deepcar be the best place to send the letter ? And a copy to the Star ?
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: chris. 18 Apr 06, 13:03
Probably deepcar and Hillsborough as there're a lot coming off Manchester Road into the woods or through Beely woods so obviously coming out of Hillsborough.
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: Saddle rAsh 18 Apr 06, 13:12

From experience, if you're hoping to get something written up in "t'Star", you've got to do all the work for them.
They'll want an article that requires little editing / actual writing.

If poss, Include lots of quotes from track users / the FC / the WRC / the Police and name your sources.
Pictures may help also (sad looking kids frowning beside a damnaged track)  haha.
It's best to include the contact details for yourself and someone else should they require further information.

this idea could be counter-productive tho - you may actually bring the woods to the attention of more motorbike riding chavs.   

 
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: chris. 18 Apr 06, 14:07
From experience, if you're hoping to get something written up in "t'Star", you've got to do all the work for them.
They'll want an article that requires little editing / actual writing.

If poss, Include lots of quotes from track users / the FC / the WRC / the Police and name your sources.
Pictures may help also (sad looking kids frowning beside a damnaged track)  haha.
It's best to include the contact details for yourself and someone else should they require further information.

this idea could be counter-productive tho - you may actually bring the woods to the attention of more motorbike riding chavs.     
Sounds like the Peter kay sketch, going round hoilday flats finding a cockroach etc.
Maybe not...

It would really need to be an article telling people it is actually against the law with the backing of the police etc. to have any positive impact, otherwise it'd probably only get in as a letter of complaint.
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: si_hill 18 Apr 06, 21:28
Think main base is ecclesfield
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: simonm 18 Apr 06, 23:14
would be a good start for the FC to add some no motorbikes signs around the woods at the obvious entry points. Heck, if the FC give us the signs we will install them during a dig day.
I can think of 1 sign in the whole of the woods that says no motorbikes and thats the entry to the chase.
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: oldenuf2knwbttr 14 May 06, 19:35
two incidents today with motorbikes
first was with two hooded youths riding past the jump spot, nothing new there but they started to yell at us something uniteligible! Wish i was closer cos a few words might of been exchanged.
2nd was four camo jacketed individuals on monkey bikes coming up from the railway lines, considering there was some rspca sponsored walk on today the user conflict defies belief.

Also as a side issue and i wont name names here, people are still exiting onto the fire road at the bottom of the jump spot at speed! You know who you are
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: chris. 14 May 06, 19:43
Yeah people need to stop blasting out onto the fireroad theres no excuse especially with all the stuff on the forum about relations with the FC and it is people that use the forum quite often from what i've seen.

Its bad enough having all the issues with motorbikes that we can't stop without creating our own problems especially when theres an organised walk going on aswell...
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: simonm 14 May 06, 22:04
got to get them exits sorted soon, FC are waiting for our leed.
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: ova da barz 15 May 06, 11:47
i thought we were waiting for the god knows how many tons of rock to be dumped at the proposed berm sights, then we skin them.

i though this was gonna be after the felling that will be taking place, that effectively will decimate the jump spot, end of frastrak, leaving us with an open book to build and improve????
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: chris. 15 May 06, 13:08
I think Simon means they are waiting for our plans before they will provide anything.

As far as I know we will still be sorting the endings of Jumps and Fast track as the felling won't take place for a while but maybe that's at our discretion to sort the ending knowing it will be demolished?

Guess this is all the sort of stuff we need to meet about and get cleared up.
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: Dark Lord Chuckles 15 May 06, 18:32
Actually, I'm still waiting for feedback from the general proposal I sent in, but I feel that as the exits are top prioity to get sorted out we can start producing detailed plans for them.  The thinning work wont change anyhing other than the top soil and a few less trees, so that shouldn't make too much differance to the plans.  We just won't make propper fixes to the exits that are going to be crushed by felling machines.  Don't think Peatys and Nemba are affected, but may be wrong.
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: simonm 18 Jun 06, 14:43
More clashes with riders today. I think there monkey bikes ? Bit larger than mini motos.
Almost had a coming together with them on plank gate, they swore at us as they finally decided which side to ride on.
Rerported it to the numbers above which was an answering machine.
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: simonm 22 Jun 06, 22:30
Good news on the motorbike front. Following my call last weekend I got a call back tonight from PC Tony Gillet from Deepcar station.
Thought I would share the good news with all.

The police in Deepcar, Oughtibridge and Hillsborough are well aware of the issue with bikes in Greno, WW and Wheatly. Steel Valley projects have been working over the last few months to start permenantly blocking access to areas for motorbikes.
In the last 3 weeks the police have issued over 40 ADM171 notices to MX riders. This notice is a warning that if another notice is presented then the bike is taken away with a 105 fine to recover + 12 per day for every day its not recovered.
Tony expressed that he would be very gratefull if anyone does see motor bike riders in the woods they do call the "Golden line number" which is 0114 296 4912 and report the details of who, number plates if any and most importantly as we can spot the difference between riders if they are MX with all the kit, Monkey bikes, kids etc.

With the notices given to MX riders  Tony said that people were traveling to WW from as far away as Stockport, Newcastle as they believed the woods were open to all motorbikes. He said once presented with the notice that all the MX riders were quick to txt / call freinds to explain that the woods were closed.

As Wharncliffe is on the border between four stations Tony is working on a joint operation, and has already spoken with Steel Valley projects and FC for there co-operation.

So all looks good on the motorbike front, its evident that if we raise the profile of the problem on the golden line then it will help Tony and his collegue PC Andy Reese help us.

cheers.

0114 296 4912
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: PaulE 22 Jun 06, 22:40
Cheers for that Simon - number is now in my mobile.
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: simonm 22 Jun 06, 22:52
no problem....simonm changes name to super grass
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: sideburn 23 Jun 06, 09:47
At last!
I must have called the Hillsborough number 20 times with limited success.
I was in the woods on Tues, and I saw three quadbikes, all riders giving me gnarly looks. Sooner or later there is going to be an incident, probably with a horse getting spooked and the rider falling off and getting hurt, or a fight between riders and bikers. The thing that does my skull in is the noise pollution. I know that there is a road nearby, but that fades into the background, but motorbikes sound like whining chainsaws, and it just torques me off.
I wonder whether this response has come from all the riders ringing the police in the past. I heard that logged calls are treated as a crime (albeit a low priority one), and if there are no 'arrests' it goes down as unsolved. So their unsolved crime statistics must be looking pretty bad.
Anyway this is definitely a step in the right direction and the police should be applauded for this action. They need to start confiscating bikes for real results, though.
Thanks to Simon
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: simonm 23 Jun 06, 13:34
Yes Sideburn, Tony Gillet  said the response is a direct result of the number of calls to the Goldenline number, Hes pretty happy at the level of detail and helping to raise awareness in  something he was obviously concerned about.


: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: simonm 3 Aug 06, 23:47
LOL, spotted one in woods on Tuesday night, MX bike riden by 15 year old chav. Registration was hung on with string. Phone number above, turns out the registration was from on 05 Red Nissan Micra !!!!
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: sideburn 4 Aug 06, 09:56
Hey, I was up there on Tues night, and I was thinking I hadn't seen any motorbikes for a while. I wonder whether calling that number has made a real difference here. At the top carpark I did notice two wasters on minibikes, but that was all. I didn't hear this other guy.
Rotherham has started a new confiscation initiative, let's hope it spills over to Sheffield.
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: simonm 4 Aug 06, 12:31
New goverment initiative is to scrap bikes more quickly.

To be honest ive noticed a marked reduciton in bikes in the woods, especially suprising since its holiday time. One great help in stopping bikes have been the fences that Steel Valley have put up at the top of the woods.
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: sideburn 14 Aug 06, 21:37
I was out at the weekend and I didn't hear any motorbikes. I wonder if they have been scared off. Is there a website equivalent to Gravity Slaves that caters to these guys, I would be interested to see what their forums say about the whole deal.
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: malco 15 Aug 06, 12:08

Unfortunately they were out again on Sunday. You could hear them tearing around and you could see the damage they'd done to the bottom fireroad. Will have to take the number out with me next time.

: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: malco 15 Aug 06, 12:13

Also, forgot to mention:

Not sure if it's the motorbikes but the lip has been pulled off (rocks and all) the hip on diamondback and also the drop halfway up, there was also damage to bits of the other tracks too.  >:(



: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: oldenuf2knwbttr 15 Aug 06, 20:42
Saw some sunday afternoon late on, reckon it was the quad bikers that i saw before. BUt sounded like other mx bikes higher up int woods.
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: Anthony 19 Aug 06, 19:51
I was up today and just as we were going home i saw a man on a orange KTM, in the top car park,then a van pulled up and there were two more mini moto's and younger lad on a quad,they looked as though they all were all meeting in the top car park.
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: Tommi HXH 21 Aug 06, 15:21
Aye, I saw them buggers on the minimoto's yesterday. Made a right racket through the woods. Annoying little baskets, There should be a confiscation policy anyway regardless of region. There are that many unliscensed dangerous moto-x/minimoto riders about even in town!
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: simonm 21 Aug 06, 15:44
I dont the FC has put NO MOTORBIKE Signs yet......so its no wonder really. So much for Hillsboroughs push
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: sayntmatt 8 May 07, 15:46
Seen a lot of police in the woods as of late but having said that there seems to be more motorbikers than ever at the moment!! It seems the police arent very effective at stopping them!
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: simonm 8 May 07, 16:01
weekday evenings are a nightmare for them. Last Thursday 4/6 in the woods. Wouldnt want to have a word with the riders though, I swear some we saw near diamond back had escaped from a mad max film.

The council have added a M/Bike trap at the top carpark. Adjacent to the barrier that is always unlocked....glad I pay my council tax !
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: malco 8 May 07, 16:04


Yeah there were some in on Sunday, 3 pikey kids on minimotos, I think they got in through the gap by the railwayline. They seemed to keep well away from us, but I'm pretty sure I spotted them bombing up fast track by the powerlines when we were in the lower end.

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: sayntmatt 8 May 07, 16:19
Its not just the mini bikes, there seems to be an influx of full on enduro and scramble bikes at the mo! Noisey as hell too, you would think the coppers would hear them and find them pretty sharpish but they never seem to be around at the right time!
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: simonm 8 May 07, 16:22
best bet is to inundate the golden line with complaints about bikes, then they send the cops in.
During last XC dig day 2 almost hit a horse on the fire road, again..... the only thing that will stop them is finding a local alternative riding place and opening for legal access.
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: chris. 8 May 07, 17:40
There were loads last weekend and on the last evening dig day.

Maybe we need to get peaty on the case and get summat going on in his/jacks land.
Not like he doesn't venture off his own land on the motorbike either so I'm sure he'd like a legal play area.
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: oldenuf2knwbttr 12 Sep 07, 10:36
Bloke and what I presume was his son on Saturday on Quad bikes, I was gving him a bit of a look and he was glaring back so he knew what the score was with bikes in them thar woods. He followed us down the entry/exit  shute by the rails and exited via the railway lines by the back of the new houses so I think we have found the route in to the woods that they are using.
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: richimpulse 24 Sep 07, 19:01
The quads are causing so much mess up there lately.
They have started riding through the pond which you pass on the way down the fireroad from the top carpark, and they are also using the open section of the old black xc route as a track too, and to add they are riding it the worng way.
It looks worse every time we head down for a dig day.

Rich
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: simonm 24 Sep 07, 21:08
I just urge everyone to call the 101 number...feels like being supergrass but the more compaints on that line the more the police take action.
there up at the woods so often one day...they will finally take decicive action as the cost of policing will outway other permenant solutions to the problem.
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: SV500 11 Nov 07, 21:33
i was up over wc last tuesday and saturday,both days i heard the sound of bikes
1'st time down at the middle lane end of the top woods and on saturday somewhere toward the top of xc section 3/4
the later could'v been the nearby farmer,i couldn't see anyone (i rode section 4)
also noticed at the top of sec 3 (stone fire place area) 2 branches tied to trees(seats) with a new fire place in the middle,
just thought of giving you a heads up,

JJ..

: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: antigee 12 Nov 07, 00:31
on tuesday there was a couple (possibly 3)  of mini moto riders basd out of the top car park riding the start of the XC - one seemed to know the trails and was giving instructions to the others, rang local police when i got home as forgot mobile.
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: sayntmatt 12 Nov 07, 10:37
Shame the police cant come up with some sort of sollution. My burd was thrown from her horse the other day when it was startled by a motorbike! Thankfully she just sustained bruises and nothing more!!
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: simonm 12 Nov 07, 11:25
Did you report it to the 101 numeber Sayntmatt ?  The more complaints to that number the more police will act.

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: Phil 12 Nov 07, 11:45
I logged two calls last week - is it still the number on the top of the thread?  All I got was answer phone but I left a message.
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: simonm 12 Nov 07, 11:45
I think 101 has replaced it now, the 101 number has an operator on 24 hours and appears to get more direct action.
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: Phil 12 Nov 07, 12:19
Is it just 101 from a mobile?
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: sayntmatt 12 Nov 07, 13:08
Did you report it to the 101 numeber Sayntmatt ?  The more complaints to that number the more police will act.


She was with a group from the riding school (cant remember the name of it) and they reported it to the five-0 there and then but I'm not sure what number they called?
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: simonm 12 Nov 07, 13:54
cool, more reports the better.
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: SV500 14 Nov 07, 22:16
i was up over wc last tuesday and saturday,both days i heard the sound of bikes
1'st time down at the middle lane end of the top woods and on saturday somewhere toward the top of xc section 3/4
the later could'v been the nearby farmer,i couldn't see anyone (i rode section 4)
also noticed at the top of sec 3 (stone fire place area) 2 branches tied to trees(seats) with a new fire place in the middle,
just thought of giving you a heads up

went up today and found the fc has been cutting back on the undergrowth at the sides of the tracks,maybe it was that that i could hear,
as for the fireplace,it seems there may have been a bit of a bonfire party going on
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/2760/stonete3.jpg
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7438/seatiy6.jpg

JJ..
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: sayntmatt 20 Feb 08, 17:09
Nevermind the motorbikes did anyone else see the golf buggy being driven around with "yoofs" hanging off it last saturday?
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: simonm 20 Feb 08, 17:28
lmao ! realy !!  wonder where they nicked that from....
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: sayntmatt 20 Feb 08, 18:00
I have no idea? I wonder where they enetered the woods too?

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: SV500 30 Jan 09, 22:33
just a heads up,
ive been over to wc 4 times this past week and 3 of those rides ive seen or heard the sounds of bikes,
there's been a quad in use over at grenowoods,they've pushed past the fence to get in,after using the top of wheata woods (the old bmx drop track area)
that area was supposed to be left alone by everyone was it not ? well now its pretty carved up,

today i saw a young lad on a bike (no7 on the front) doing the top of the woods,making a right mess of the paths,he was looking over his shoulder as he rounded the bend and only saw me at the last moment  ::)
there was a large group of mountain bikers in the top car park with a couple of vans etc (he disappeared into the crowd)

as the whole place is pretty soaked at the mo,its not taking much to rip the paths up,
just thought id let you know guys,

JJ..
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: antigee 10 Feb 09, 12:00
"there's been a quad in use over at grenowoods"

with the snow it was pretty obvious how the quad was bypassing the posts in front of the horse barrier at the far end of wheata wood (tpt) off the woodhead road - sent a pic of the tracks to Sheffield Council who i believe manage this part of the woods suggesting adding one more post would plug this gap - though its a bit like sticking your finger in a dyke  -  old joke;)


**update Sheffield Council replied to say will be sending an Engineer to exam this access point to see what can be done without hindering other users**

 and by the way there was a letter in Look Local last week - a free local advertising paper, widely distributed in northern sheffield urging users of Wharncliffe Woods to ring 101 and/or the Deepcar police goldenline to report off road bike/quads in the woods
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: Kuhi 10 Feb 09, 18:43
**update Sheffield Council replied to say will be sending an Engineer to exam this access point to see what can be done without hindering other users**

The gate at the end of Greno Gate has been broken for about 2 years now. Obviously although there is a bike gate and horse gate, no-one uses them. Seems to me that if they have dead ends that force them to re-trace their steps they would be less keen to use motorbikes in there. It's back on fixmystreet having disappeared once already. It's managed by Fountains Forestry and privately owner (up for sale). They seem pretty complacent.

The police were called to a group of 6 motorbikers in Greno wood recently. They found them at the local pub and told them they were not supposed to be in the woods. I suspect they knew that already though!

Kuhi
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: antigee 11 Feb 09, 13:22
Hi Kuhi i contacted    PublicRightsofWay@sheffield.gov.uk as this was specifically a Trans Pennine Trail - also sent grid reference and photo of the problem - might be worth giving it go or ask the question to them about who is responsible - seems a waste of money putting in barriers that are ineffective - agree not practical to plug every gap but anything that makes access awkward helps especially at such an obvious entry point

well at least the Police did something and it does act as a warning to others - personally i'd like to see some pic's on the local news of bikes/quads going in the crusher - won't impact the kids but some of the guys i've seen have good kit and as you say know the law
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: craigevans 23 Mar 09, 16:02
getting make loving ridiculous now there were about 6 motorbikes and 8 quads on the bottom fire road near nemba this sunday, they were blasting along back and forth at what looked like about 60 mph. if anyone were to have been hit someone would be dead, and when me and james decided to go home we walked as far in the edge as possible and everyone of them got as close as they could as if to intimidate us. when we got to the split in the fire road just after waterfall and no human we found the quads had formed a line across it so we could barely fit through, they gave us dirty looks especially that meaty bastard on the quad.

something neads to be done about this its not just annoying anymore its dangerous
: Re: Motorbikes in the Woods
: simonm 23 Mar 09, 16:26
sent a note to FE...again..